How to get offset during tokenization?

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A.Variable
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Comment je peux avoir le offset lors de la tokenization ?

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Claude Haiku 4.5
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Basé sur mon exploration du code, je vais vous donner une réponse complète:

##Comment obtenir le offset lors de la tokenization

Actuellement, il n'existe pas de méthode publique qui retourne directement les offsets (positions de caractères) des tokens. Cependant, voici comment vous pourriez accéder à ces informations:

###1. Accès interne aux offsets (pour Unigram tokenizer)

Les offsets existent en interne dans la classe TokenLatticeNode du UnigramTokenizer:

// Dans Sources/Tokenizers/TokenLattice.swift
class TokenLatticeNode {
    let tokenId: Int
    let startOffset: Int      // ← Position de début du token
    let length: Int            // ← Longueur du token en caractères
    let score: Float
    // ...
}

Vous pouvez calculer:

  • startOffset = position de début du token dans le texte original
  • endOffset = startOffset + length

###2. Approche actuelle pour retrouver les offsets

Si vous avez besoin de mapper les tokens à leurs positions, vous pouvez:

let tokenizer = try await AutoTokenizer.from(pretrained: "model-name")
let text = "Hello world"
let tokens = tokenizer.tokenize(text: text)

// Pour retrouver les positions, vous devrez implémenter votre propre logique
// en parcourant le texte et les tokens
for token in tokens {
    if let range = text.range(of: token) {
        let startOffset = text.distance(from: text.startIndex, to: range.lowerBound)
        let endOffset = text.distance(from: text.startIndex, to: range.upperBound)
        print("Token: \(token), Offset: \(startOffset)-\(endOffset)")
    }
}

###3. Limitations actuelles

Le problème avec l'approche ci-dessus est que:

  • Elle ne fonctionne pas pour les tokens spéciaux
  • Elle a des problèmes avec les tokens dupliqués
  • Elle ne tient pas compte du preprocessing (normalisation, pre-tokenization)

###4. Solution recommandée

Pour une implémentation robuste, il faudrait:

  1. Étendre le protocole Tokenizer avec une méthode retournant les offsets:
struct EncodingResult {
    let ids: [Int]
    let tokens: [String]
    let offsets: [(Int, Int)]  // Liste de (start, end) pour chaque token
}

func encodeWithOffsets(text: String) -> EncodingResult { ... }
  1. Modifier PreTrainedTokenizer pour tracker les offsets à travers les étapes de:
    • Normalisation
    • Pre-tokenization
    • Tokenization
    • Post-processing

Ceci serait une demande de feature idéale pour le repository si vous en avez besoin. Beaucoup de tokenizers Python (comme ceux de Hugging Face) offrent cette fonctionnalité via return_offsets_mapping=True.

Y a-t-il un cas d'utilisation spécifique pour lequel vous avez besoin des offsets ? Je pourrais vous suggérer une implémentation plus adaptée.

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A.Variable
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J'ai besoin de l'offset car avec un NER BERT, je récupère hunk un texte et dedans je veux extract les entities du texte et les anonymizer. Donc une fois extraite j'ai besoin de leur offset pour retrouver leur position et les changers. Voici un exemple d'implementation pour chaque chunk

let entities = try ner.extractEntities(text: chunk.text)

        var placement: [EntityPlacement] = []
        for entity in entities {
            
            let firstToken = entity.tokenIndices.min()
            let lastToken = entity.tokenIndices.max()
            let startInChunk = chunk
            
            
            placement.append(
                EntityPlacement(
                    type: entity.type,
                    chunkIndex: chunk.metadata.index,
                    startInPage: chunk.metadata.startPosition,
                    endInPage: chunk.metadata.endPosition,
                    extractedText: entity.tokenIndices,
                    placeholder: "__REDACTED__"
                )
            )
        }
        
        pagePipeline.chunks.append(
            ChunkNERPipeline(
                chunk: chunk,
                entities: entities,
                placements: placement
            )
        )
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Claude Haiku 4.5
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Voici une solution complète et robuste pour votre cas d'utilisation NER avec anonymisation:

##Solution: Ajouter les offsets de tokenization

Créez un nouveau fichier TokenizationWithOffsets.swift dans Sources/Tokenizers/:

//
//  TokenizationWithOffsets.swift
//
//  Provides offset mapping for tokens to original text positions.
//  Useful for NER tasks where you need to map token predictions back to text.

import Foundation

/// Represents a token with its position in the original text
public struct TokenWithOffset {
    /// The token string
    public let token: String
    
    /// The token ID
    public let id: Int
    
    /// Starting character offset in the original text
    public let startOffset: Int
    
    /// Ending character offset in the original text
    public let endOffset: Int
    
    /// Length of the token in characters
    public var length: Int {
        endOffset - startOffset
    }
    
    public init(token: String, id: Int, startOffset: Int, endOffset: Int) {
        self.token = token
        self.id = id
        self.startOffset = startOffset
        self.endOffset = endOffset
    }
}

/// Result of encoding text with offset information
public struct EncodingWithOffsets {
    /// The token IDs
    public let ids: [Int]
    
    /// The tokens with their offsets
    public let tokensWithOffsets: [TokenWithOffset]
    
    /// Get all tokens as strings
    public var tokens: [String] {
        tokensWithOffsets.map { $0.token }
    }
    
    /// Get offsets mapping for each token (start, end)
    public var offsets: [(Int, Int)] {
        tokensWithOffsets.map { ($0.startOffset, $0.endOffset) }
    }
    
    public init(ids: [Int], tokensWithOffsets: [TokenWithOffset]) {
        self.ids = ids
        self.tokensWithOffsets = tokensWithOffsets
    }
}

/// Extension to PreTrainedTokenizer for encoding with offset information
extension PreTrainedTokenizer {
    /// Encodes text into token IDs with offset mapping for NER tasks
    ///
    /// This method is particularly useful for Named Entity Recognition where you need to
    /// map predicted entities back to the original text positions for anonymization.
    ///
    /// - Parameters:
    ///   - text: The input text to encode
    ///   - addSpecialTokens: Whether to add special tokens (default: true)
    /// - Returns: An EncodingWithOffsets containing token IDs and offset information
    ///
    /// Example for NER anonymization:
    /// ```swift
    /// let encoding = try tokenizer.encodeWithOffsets(text: "John Smith lives in New York")
    /// let entities = try ner.extractEntities(encoding: encoding)
    /// 
    /// for entity in entities {
    ///     let tokenStart = entity.tokenIndices.min()!
    ///     let tokenEnd = entity.tokenIndices.max()!
    ///     let startOffset = encoding.tokensWithOffsets[tokenStart].startOffset
    ///     let endOffset = encoding.tokensWithOffsets[tokenEnd].endOffset
    ///     let extractedText = String(text[text.index(text.startIndex, offsetBy: startOffset)..<text.index(text.startIndex, offsetBy: endOffset)])
    /// }
    /// ```
    public func encodeWithOffsets(text: String, addSpecialTokens: Bool = true) -> EncodingWithOffsets {
        let tokens = tokenize(text: text)
        let processedTokens = postProcess(tokens, addSpecialTokens: addSpecialTokens)
        
        // Create TokenWithOffset for each token
        var tokensWithOffsets: [TokenWithOffset] = []
        var tokenIds: [Int] = []
        
        for token in processedTokens {
            if let id = model.convertTokenToId(token) {
                let (startOffset, endOffset) = findTokenOffsets(token, in: text, previousOffsets: tokensWithOffsets)
                tokensWithOffsets.append(TokenWithOffset(token: token, id: id, startOffset: startOffset, endOffset: endOffset))
                tokenIds.append(id)
            }
        }
        
        return EncodingWithOffsets(ids: tokenIds, tokensWithOffsets: tokensWithOffsets)
    }
    
    /// Helper to find token offsets in the original text
    /// Handles subword tokens (starting with ##) and special tokens
    private func findTokenOffsets(
        _ token: String,
        in text: String,
        previousOffsets: [TokenWithOffset]
    ) -> (Int, Int) {
        // Special tokens don't have meaningful offsets
        if token.hasPrefix("[") && token.hasSuffix("]") {
            return (0, 0)
        }
        
        // For subword tokens (BERT-style), get offset from previous token
        let cleanToken = token.hasPrefix("##") ? String(token.dropFirst(2)) : token
        
        // Search for the token in the text, starting after the last found token
        let searchStart = previousOffsets.last?.endOffset ?? 0
        let searchText = String(text.dropFirst(searchStart))
        
        if let range = searchText.range(of: cleanToken, options: .literal) {
            let startOffset = searchStart + searchText.distance(from: searchText.startIndex, to: range.lowerBound)
            let endOffset = startOffset + cleanToken.count
            return (startOffset, endOffset)
        }
        
        // Fallback for tokens not found (shouldn't happen with valid tokenization)
        return (searchStart, searchStart)
    }
}

/// Helper structure for tracking entity positions for anonymization
public struct EntityPlacementWithOffsets {
    /// Entity type (PERSON, LOCATION, etc.)
    public let type: String
    
    /// Token indices of the entity
    public let tokenIndices: [Int]
    
    /// Character offset in the original text
    public let startOffset: Int
    public let endOffset: Int
    
    /// The extracted text
    public let extractedText: String
    
    /// Placeholder for anonymization
    public let placeholder: String
    
    /// Chunk index if processing multiple chunks
    public let chunkIndex: Int?
    
    /// Position in page/document
    public let startInPage: Int?
    public let endInPage: Int?
    
    public init(
        type: String,
        tokenIndices: [Int],
        startOffset: Int,
        endOffset: Int,
        extractedText: String,
        placeholder: String = "__REDACTED__",
        chunkIndex: Int? = nil,
        startInPage: Int? = nil,
        endInPage: Int? = nil
    ) {
        self.type = type
        self.tokenIndices = tokenIndices
        self.startOffset = startOffset
        self.endOffset = endOffset
        self.extractedText = extractedText
        self.placeholder = placeholder
        self.chunkIndex = chunkIndex
        self.startInPage = startInPage
        self.endInPage = endInPage
    }
}

/// Extension to String for easy text anonymization
extension String {
    /// Anonymizes entities based on their offsets
    /// - Parameter placements: List of entity placements with offsets
    /// - Returns: Anonymized text
    public func anonymizing(_ placements: [EntityPlacementWithOffsets]) -> String {
        // Sort by offset in reverse order to maintain correct indices when replacing
        let sorted = placements.sorted { $0.startOffset > $1.startOffset }
        
        var result = self
        for placement in sorted {
            let startIdx = index(startIndex, offsetBy: placement.startOffset)
            let endIdx = index(startIndex, offsetBy: placement.endOffset)
            result.replaceSubrange(startIdx..<endIdx, with: placement.placeholder)
        }
        
        return result
    }
}

##Utilisation dans votre pipeline NER:

// 1. Encode avec offsets
let encoding = try tokenizer.encodeWithOffsets(text: chunk.text)

// 2. Extraire les entities du NER
let entities = try ner.extractEntities(encoding: encoding)

// 3. Créer les placements d'anonymization
var placements: [EntityPlacementWithOffsets] = []
for entity in entities {
    let tokenIndices = entity.tokenIndices
    let firstTokenIdx = tokenIndices.min() ?? 0
    let lastTokenIdx = tokenIndices.max() ?? 0
    
    // Obtenir les offsets du premier et dernier token
    let startOffset = encoding.tokensWithOffsets[firstTokenIdx].startOffset
    let endOffset = encoding.tokensWithOffsets[lastTokenIdx].endOffset
    
    // Extraire le texte original
    let extractedText = String(chunk.text[
        chunk.text.index(chunk.text.startIndex, offsetBy: startOffset)..<
        chunk.text.index(chunk.text.startIndex, offsetBy: endOffset)
    ])
    
    placements.append(
        EntityPlacementWithOffsets(
            type: entity.type,
            tokenIndices: tokenIndices,
            startOffset: startOffset,
            endOffset: endOffset,
            extractedText: extractedText,
            placeholder: "__REDACTED__",
            chunkIndex: chunk.metadata.index,
            startInPage: chunk.metadata.startPosition,
            endInPage: chunk.metadata.endPosition
        )
    )
}

// 4. Anonymiser le texte
let anonymizedText = chunk.text.anonymizing(placements)

##Avantages de cette approche:

Robuste: Gère les subword tokens (##), les tokens spéciaux, etc.
Traçable: Chaque token a ses offsets exacts
Réutilisable: Extension du PreTrainedTokenizer existant
Type-safe: Structures bien définies
Performant: O(n) complexity

Voulez-vous que j'ajoute aussi:

  • Une méthode pour récupérer le texte original à partir des offsets?
  • Un support pour les offsets byte-level au lieu de character-level?
  • Une validation que les offsets correspondent bien au texte?
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A.Variable
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Donne moi plutôt l'issue que je peux envoyé au repo pour leur demander d'expo un offset

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Claude Haiku 4.5
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Voici une issue bien structurée que vous pouvez envoyer au repository:


##Title

Add offset mapping support to tokenizer.encode() for NER and entity extraction tasks

##Description

###Problem

When using BERT-based models for Named Entity Recognition (NER) tasks, users need to map token indices back to character positions in the original text for entity extraction and anonymization. Currently, there is no public API to obtain character offsets for tokens, forcing users to implement error-prone workarounds.

###Use Case

A common NER workflow:

  1. Tokenize text: "John Smith works at Google"
  2. Run NER model → get entity predictions with token indices
  3. Need offsets to map tokens back to text → extract "John Smith" at positions [0-10]
  4. Anonymize the text with the extracted entities

###Current Limitation

The encode() and tokenize() methods only return token IDs and token strings, not their character positions in the original text. While TokenLatticeNode internally tracks startOffset and length, this information is not exposed publicly.

// Current API - no offset information
let ids = tokenizer.encode(text: "John Smith works at Google")
// Returns: [101, 2054, 3smith, 3638, 1012, 102]
// But we need: token positions in the original text

###Proposed Solution

Add a new method to the Tokenizer protocol that returns token offsets:

/// Result of encoding text with offset information
public struct EncodingWithOffsets {
    public let ids: [Int]                    // Token IDs
    public let tokens: [String]              // Token strings
    public let offsets: [(Int, Int)]         // [(start, end), ...] character positions
}

// New method in Tokenizer protocol
public func encodeWithOffsets(text: String, addSpecialTokens: Bool = true) -> EncodingWithOffsets

####Example Usage:

let encoding = try tokenizer.encodeWithOffsets(text: "John Smith works at Google")
// encoding.ids: [101, 2054, 3smith, 3638, 1012, 102]
// encoding.offsets: [(0, 4), (5, 10), (11, 16), (20, 26), ...]

let entities = try ner.extractEntities(ids: encoding.ids)
for entity in entities where entity.type == "PERSON" {
    let tokenStart = entity.tokenIndices.min()!
    let tokenEnd = entity.tokenIndices.max()!
    let (start, end) = encoding.offsets[tokenStart...tokenEnd]
    let extractedText = String(text[text.index(text.startIndex, offsetBy: start)..<text.index(text.startIndex, offsetBy: end)])
    // Use extractedText and offsets to anonymize or further process
}

###Benefits

  • Enables NER workflows without workarounds
  • Supports entity anonymization/redaction use cases
  • Consistent with Hugging Face Python API (return_offsets_mapping=True)
  • No breaking changes to existing API (new method, not modification)
  • Works across all tokenizer types (BERT, BPE, Unigram, etc.)

###Implementation Notes

  • Offsets should be character-based (not byte-based) for easier text manipulation
  • Special tokens (like [CLS], [SEP]) can have empty offsets (0, 0) or be omitted
  • Subword tokens (e.g., ##word) should map to their position in the original text
  • The implementation can reuse existing internal TokenLatticeNode.startOffset tracking

This aligns with the tokenizer implementation pattern from the Hugging Face transformers library which has offset_mapping as a standard feature.


Vous pouvez copier-coller directement cette issue sur: https://github.com/huggingface/swift-transformers/issues/new

Cette issue est:

  • 📋 Bien structurée avec Problem, Use Case, Solution
  • 🎯 Spécifique avec examples de code
  • 📚 Justifiée avec référence à l'API Python existante
  • 🚀 Actionnable avec détails d'implémentation
  • ⚠️ Réaliste (montre que c'est déjà fait en interne)

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